Wednesday Weirdness --- President Obama Should Apologize For Once Again Insulting The Office Of The Presidency & The Intelligence Of The American People

Extraterrestrial

Hey Buddy!

This Administration is CLUELESS, as to what to do.

Our president campaigned on this jobs issue in 2008. Where are the results of his promises? What are the results except higher unemployment.

Stay on vacation, Mr. President and Congress -stay on yours.

We're getting used to it.

Sir, you're 'one and done'!

And Sir, don't try to fix anything anymore, because everything you touch is a disaster.

You're CLUELESS, inept, inexperienced, and NOT a Leader!

YOU constantly BLAME OTHERS for the situation You've had almost THREE years to correct the problems YOU said you were going to correct. What have YOU done, oh that's right,the befuddling Obamacare that no one can understand, even NancY pelosi doesn't know what's in it.

Mr. President: Take some responsibility, -for once in your life!

Leiya, are you arguing that those in the TEA GOP field regularly take responsibility for their actions? I have never seen it.

TheJonesGirl

EVERYBODY should take responsibility for their actions (and the non-actions of Mr. President and Congress)! And NO, I'm not arguing, I'm voicing an opinion. If I misconstrued your point, let me know, please.

Regards.

owlsview

I'm quoting TheJonesGirl

"are you arguing that those in the TEA GOP field regularly take responsibility for their actions?"

Some people are so blinded by their 'party bias' or shorted sighted-ness, and that's when they become narrow-minded. As a upper level manager, I see this all the time.

Best regards and have a good holiday weekend and to you to TheJonesGirl!

Leiya

Leiya, Owl was posting in regard to TJG's comment. :-]

Leiya - I, too, am pretty sick of partisan politics - more so with each passing day. But I am REALLY sick of the hypocrisy of the Democrats in blaming the Republicans, since it is the Democrats who had control of the legislature for a large part of Obama's term.

Here's how I see this in black and white. The Democrats introduced some really crappy pieces of legislation which the Republicans absolutely would NOT accept (like card check). Now, the Dems yelled and screamed "Party of NO" and acted like victims - when the Repubicans were DOING WHAT THEY WERE ELECTED TO DO.

So IMO, the Democrats expect the Republicans to roll over and follow their agenda - because the Democrats believe THEIR constituents to be more important than the citizens who voted in those Republicans.

Really? And the Democrats don't see the hypocrisy in that? That blindness is making them look like idiots to the American public and especially to the republican, independent and third party voters who would LIKE to think their voice matters in government.

That blindness is making them look like idiots to the American public and especially to the republican, independent and third party voters who would LIKE to think their voice matters in government.

Not in the circles I run in. That is ya'lls short coming. You think you are the majority and you are not. Most of us here in the vine don't call ourselves "far left". Me, I have voted Republican. I am only a registered Dem so I can vote in the primaries in Oklahoma. The ideology of the right is stuck in the 18th century now however, and the modern world is passing them by.

CCArm. Since the declaration of independence was written in the 18th century and the constitution at about the same time, am I to assume that you want this country to become something different than what the constitution Lays out ? Such as Marxism, communism, a totalitarian dictatorship, or a monarchy? So far it seems like our constitution is being slowly ripped away from us by the left leaning extremists! That is completely unacceptable! Too many people have died for that constitution to just let it get taken away from us!

CCArm are your REALLY trying to get me to believe that a combination of Republicans, Independents, Libertarians, Green Party, Socialists, Communists and all the rest are NOT a majority? They (all combined) are a smaller number than the Democrats? I've got news for you - you're wrong.

And you took my comment completely out of context - or perhaps you just did not understand - let me try it again. read this slowly

The Democrats are acting like ONLY the wishes of THEIR party matters. Understand now?

kjmgirl

Very well said!

Not in the circles I run in.

Try running in bigger circles.

:-]

That blindness is making them look like idiots to the American public and especially to the republican, independent and third party voters who would LIKE to think their voice matters in government.

It seems the American public is not quite as blind as you imply:

WASHINGTON — Americans are plenty angry at Congress in the aftermath of the debt crisis and Republicans could pay the greatest price, a new Associated Press-GfK poll suggests.

The poll finds the tea party has lost support, Republican House Speaker John Boehner is increasingly unpopular and people are warming to the idea of not just cutting spending but also raising taxes – anathema to the GOP – just as both parties prepare for another struggle with deficit reduction.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/26/congress-approval-rating-_n_938070.html

And as far as being sick of partisan politics you might review some of you own comments - they are as partisan as anything I have seem from the left IMHO.

Fla Pat Thank you for posting the facts.

CCArm. Since the declaration of independence was written in the 18th century and the constitution at about the same time, am I to assume that you want this country to become something different than what the constitution Lays out ?

you know what assuming does...

Fla Pat - WHY are they "partisan?" Because I called out the Democrats for blaming the Republicans when THEY are just as guilty? That's a ridiculous stand. You want me to call out the republicans for something, too? OK FINE. Your Stand on Religion has no place in government!

And how in the hell am I supposed to call them on ANYTHING when the democrats here insist that the republicans haven't actually DONE anything? More hypocrisy?

Fla Pat - WHY are they "partisan?"

The are partisan because your opinions do not reflect the whole population of the country. In your comment #2.8 you stated the dems passed "some really crappy pieces of legislation" I and many others do not agree, you are partisan in your opinion

Again in the same comment we have:

So IMO, the Democrats expect the Republicans to roll over and follow their agenda - because the Democrats believe THEIR constituents to be more important than the citizens who voted in those Republicans.

This is just pure partisan speculation. How could you possible know what all democrats expect of the republicans.

Look, politics is a partisan business and it is OK to advocate one position or another, just do not make out like the rhetoric and partisanship comes only from the left.

I have bad news for the both of you. We are the largest voting block in the country and that makes us the biggest party in town.

Hardly bad news Owl. Competition tends to produce benefit. The ideas that genetate the most excitement and benefit eventually rise to the top in a free market/society. Those ideas can come from the left, right or middle - it's a matter of convincing that large voting block you note to endorse your idea, then all can share (or grumble as the case unfortunately often is).

Owl Is very wise! He not speak with forked toungue! The sun does not circle the earth, the earth is not flat. Gravity sucks! And so do the extremists on both sides!

I was absolutely stunned and amazed that the article was even written - let alone seeded by Soph.

Yes, I have on more than one occasion questioned her motives beyond stirring controversy given she has absolutely no ties to this country….Local liberals are enough to combat……we certainly do not appreciate foreigners stirring the pot….!!!

Oh, Soph is alright - she just doesn't understand as much about American politics as she thinks she does - and her loyal following DO adore her.

She does not know how life is in America,

Oh, you could not be more wrong. The rest of the world knows A LOT about this country - we affect the rest of the world and they probably know more about us than most Americans. And I have lived in Ireland and England, and your ideas of "socialism" are probably way off the mark. Have you ever lived overseas? Most Americans know NOTHING about the rest of the world (and not much more about the US). As for economics, I see very little understanding of economics here and in the general population.

It's easy to pick on Soph because she seeds articles that have already been written.

These things are being written and spoken about everywhere...but somehow it's Soph who is stirring things up? (Like no one else would seed them) Please give me a break.

Who cares where she lives. Our politics are watched all over the world. You all act like she's a foreign agent donating millions to US politicians. Everyone knows who legitimized that little trick and it was not the Liberals.

She must be pretty powerful for everyone to pile on this way. And that power is not coming from her "friends".

I'm a foreigner and I follow American politics. As I say to people it's the best soap drama in the world.

Great characters, twists and turns, explosive rhetoric, you could not make it up if you tried.

I, for one believes Sophie can post any comment she wants. She is a member of the vine and that's where it ends. She has all the rights and privileges afforded to all members regardless of whether they live in the U.S. or not. Any one who does not like the post do not have to make any comments on the post. For myself, I enjoy responding to most of Sophie's comments and respond to it based on what I think about it and not on a personal basis. I don't make an issue of personality, ever in any of my comments. It is my unbiased opinion of the issue whether it is political, character or religious in nature.

So let me get this straight . The right wing conservatives have a major ass spasm if a foreigner Soph. participates in the discussion on American politics?...

Tell me how you republican patriots feel about the Chamber of Commerce taking billions from foreign corporation and governments to establish ( there words not mine). Meaningful opposition to the left.....

Ya, that meaningful opposition is more like a bank account in the Caribbean and a skanky east block hooker and Viagra....

The people you righty shill for is an embarrassment to the rest of us that finish high school.....suckers!

Owlsview - that bit about foreigners - maybe that's why Soph is so tough on anyone who opposes Obama. Britain HAS NO CONSTITUTION, and the Prime Minister has pretty much carte blanche to do what he wants. THANK GOD it's not like this here.

And Obama really needs to remember that Boehner is third in line to be President of this Country in the event that something would happen to him and What's his Name.

People, especially many foreigners seem to think that when somebody becomes the President of the U.S. that they attain some sort of sainthood.

What?

Foreigners don't care. They are just as happy to look at the US President as a man. Was Geo W. Bush considered a saint?

People, especially many foreigners seem to think that when somebody becomes the President of the U.S. that they attain some sort of sainthood.

It's a interesting turn of phrase. I think people outside of America had/have high hopes for Obama because he resonates more with them. For someone from Britain, Bush was completely unfathomable. We couldn't understand how he got elected ... twice! So along comes someone, well spoken and seemingly more reasonable than Bush and we got our hopes up.

I don't think foreigners thought of Obama as a Saint, but more like the politicians we are familiar with from their won countries ... very far from a Saint, but someone that we can relate to.

Kjmgirl, post #8.2: I wish I could say different, but I am not so sure that America has a constitution anymore....

Owlsview - that bit about foreigners - maybe that's why Soph is so tough on anyone who opposes Obama. Britain HAS NO CONSTITUTION, and the Prime Minister has pretty much carte blanche to do what he wants. THANK GOD it's not like this here.

If we have a peaceful protest, like the one in Washington on the proposed pipeline from Canada to Texas, we are arrested. For what? Do we have the right to gather or not? Do we have the right to speak up for or against issues that are dear to our hearts, or not? We Americans have somehow slowly come to ACCEPTANCE of being arrested for a peaceful protest. We have allowed another right to be thwarted.

This government is constantly doing things that take away our liberties at every turn, and about everyone here on Newsvine has experieced the same feelings: issues are coming down the line so fast and furious that it is a full time job of every American to try to keep up with them. We are not listened to be our "representatives", and so, I debate if we have a constitution anymore, other than an old piece of paper that is being buried in the dust.

If your an illegal immigrant you can protest and not be harrassed! It is not politically correct to hassle foreigners who protest but it is open season on citizens! go figure! I have seen this with my own eyes! I live in Cali@!$%#edupfornia! :-]

Extraterrestrial You can always move to Mississippi.

Red states have poorer and less educated populations. Those states are an extremely heavy BURDEN on successful blue states.
http://www.visualeconomics.com/united-states-federal-tax-dollars/
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/04/the_red_state_ripoff.html
http://mary-price.newsvine.com/_news/2010/10/22/5337065-red-state-welfare#c18700017
http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2011/08/americas-fiscal-union?fsrc=scn%2Ffb%2Fwl%2Fmt%2Ftheredandtheblack
http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/22685.html
http://www.scribd.com/doc/8229012/Tax-Donor-or-Contrib-States
http://www.donorequity.org/
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2690371/posts
http://illuminate.newsvine.com/_news/2010/11/02/5395552-red-states-blue-states-poor-states-rich-states
http://ezinearticles.com/?Red-States-Mostly-Welfare-States-Dependent-On-Blue-States-But-Likely-Too-Uninformed-to-
Know&id=5392460
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2004/09/red_states_feed.html

I really would like to leave California. But I can't. My disability won't even let me out of the house most of the time! I have always wanted to move to Ruidoso NM. I lived there when I was 6. traveled through there in June when I was still able to. It is still beautiful there. Tired of all the BS and overcharging that Californians have to put up with. Not just gas but everything!

Alex. CA

I don't get it! What do tax demographics have to do with what I was talking about?

don't get it! What do tax demographics have to do with what I was talking about?

nothing, just another libbie talking point to be spouted off verbatim (or cut and paste)...

Extraterrestrial FYI: NM is another blue state!!!!!!!! Are you sure that you are a right winger?????

Gloria - you are right. The Constitution should dictate life in America and it's been reduced to a "living document"

Little liberties taken away little at a time, just one tiny thing here, one tiny thing there - and before you know it, we're being told what to eat, what to drink, where to live, how to live how to raise our children, what we can say...

Alex, It does not matter to me what color a state is! I am not a member of any political affiliation! So your assumption is way off base. How many people do you actually think give a damn about what color their state is considered to be? Besides it has no bearing on this conversation.

I know a lot of people who would not like to live in any red state.

Name two.

Still waiting for your reply Alex! Who wouldn't want to live in a red state? The people who live in the red states? You're totally outgunned here. You really shouldn't make statements you cannot backup with facts.

I have a feeling that Mrs. Obama's ancestors were brought here against their will, doing the hard work for your ancestors with no say in the matter.

What do the Obamas owe you, exactly? And why are you not upset over the good life that your own TEA GOP politicians have?

Oh, that's right, because you just hate hate hate Obama irrationally. Whatever. It is your type of thinking that will cost the TEA GOP big in 2012, can't wait for the whining!

Magnoliaave, uhh, I hate to correct you but I think you meant to say while they try to feed us "chad". Hanging chad to be more precise.

I would expect this from one, JonesGirl! My ancestors didn't bring over Michelle's ancestors.....her own people did. First, they went into Brazil, etc., then, they came into our part of the world. Shame on her own people!

Obamas owe all of us some restraint from spending, spending and more spending. You think the TP people have a good life? You are so ill-informed. This was started by people (even like you, God forbid) who didn't like the stimilus and the healthcare proposed by your illustrious President.

You flip your mouth off all of the time being so liberal. I hope your liberal self has to come back and backtrack all of the crap that you put out there.

One more thing.....Michelle's ancestors did no work for mine. Even slaves had a better life than mine did.l

Wait, the slaves brought themselves here? LOL, WTF.

The only ones backtracking will be the ill-informed, low-information TEA GOP in 2012--the America you guys say you want is a country few would want to live in.

Where were you when Junior Bush was spending and not even putting the spending on the books for the wars, Medicare Part D and the tax cuts for the rich? Cheering him on, I bet.

You are bizarre! Their own people...you know the Africans...brought their people here. You don't know history, JonesGirl!

I am not a member of the Tea Party, but they have a lot more going for them than we have going now.

Medicare part D was a cut for the rich? Excuse me!

We are not living in Bush times nor Clinton times, but that is what you liberals go back to when in trouble. We are living now!

TJG, Africans back in the days of slavery were attacking their neighboring villages capturing men women and children to sell! mostly criminals were sold directly at first but expansionism and greed had opposing territories fighting each other and to the victors went the spoils of war! They have been doing this for centuries! They were sold on the open market just like a food item! If you lived in Africa it is better to be a black slave trader then it would be to be a black slave!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade#African_participation_in_the_slave_trade

Portugal and Europe were the biggest recipients of slaves!

"This is the first time that I have been proud of America"

Gee...I wonder why a black woman in this country would feel that way. Duh!

But, by all means...Let's give W. and Perry, Cheney, etc a pass on the crap they say.

Are you profiling also?

That's ridiculous and shows a genuine lack of understanding regarding US history.

TJG -

Wait, the slaves brought themselves here? LOL, WTF.

You're right, the slaves didn't bring themselves here. If you do some research you will find that African tribes were selling each other out to slave traders. African tribes that were at war with each other figured out they could get rid of their enemies by setting them up for capture by the slave traders without lifting a finger.

The trouble with that scenario, is that the ones doing the setting up were also set up. If the African tribes weren't so hell bent on fighting over turf they could have banded together against the foreign invaders and prevented the slave trade. They were just as culpable in their demise as any white slave traders.

http://debate.uvm.edu/dreadlibrary/mclean.html

The slave trade in Africa began long before the introduction of Europeans. Africans would enslave people for different reasons contrary to the modern stereotype, profit. According to the memoirs of an Italian born French slave trader, Captain Theodore Canot (also spelled Canneau) there are five principles for the enslavement of Africans by other Africans. The first reason for slavery was the prisoner of war. War between rival communities over land or for other fractions left people who were captured. These people were mainly adopted into the new culture, in order to increase the power of the dominant society; they were not only used for labor purposes.

Sorry for going off on a tangent Owls. When I read suggestion that it was only whites that did slave trading I need to step in with a bit of history that most people either overlook, or are unaware of.

I did the same thing! After all it was TJG who started it!(pointing finger in her direction)

Hey! This blame game this kind of fun! No wonder the lefties like to do it so much!

When I read suggestion that it was only whites that did slave trading

I did not see that suggestion above but posting a defense to the slave trade in any way shape or form is fairly abominable.

mochabeans

The comment was there, sometimes comments vanish without a trace for unexplained reasons. a glitch in the vine. I have had a comment or two vanish with no explanation and had to write it again. I would find the original in my records but when I clicked on it to get to the article it was not on the article anymore. Tjg did make a comment blaming whites of being the ones solely responsible for the slave trade. thus prompting the responses you did see.

Wonder if anyone else has noticed this happening?

Most racists and bigots are fox baggers or repubs.

grenade troll much, Alex? Sheeze! Reported.

What part of his body killed Obama? That was in the works long before he came along! He had a Democratic Congress...what did he do? He is deporting while suggesting amnesty!!!!! America is doing down the tubes! Record profits? Did you see the unemployment statistics today? He shut down the drilling in the Gulf of Mexico putting out thousands of workers. These workers still are not back at work!

Tell me what else!

Tell me if you order a hit man to kill someone, you would be guilty of killing someone. Now I know you hate that it was Pres Obama that did indeed kill Bin Laden, but the sooner you realize that, you can move on with your life.

He passed a great Stimulus. It could have been bigger, but some cowards in Congress refuse it.

On the Immigrate thing. He is still deporting record people and that is a fact. Betther than any Dem or Reps Pres. Reagan gave protection. Bush wanted to give protection. That is a fact.

Yes I saw un-employment. What has the House Reps done in 9 months to help. Not a damn thing. Also ask those Businesses and Corps that have made, once again, brealing record profits to start hiring us, Americans. When are the Reps going to ask the Corps that.

Wah wah, that is what you sound like because he shut down drilling after an explosion that killed people and people also lost their jobs. I saw many people crying that Pres Obama got 30 Billion from BP to help people. You haters even cried about that. Pres Obama is still the Pres that has allowed more drilling than any of Pres.

Like I said, Pres Obama is borderline Rep. He is more Rep than Progressive or Liberal

Add that he even refuse to go after Bush's Admin.

Mag, if the mission had failed, you would have blamed Obama--your side would have had impeachment on the table. If he would have gotten the blame, then he gets the credit, simple as that.

Perhaps you are confused because he didn't strut about on an aircraft carrier wearing a codpiece?

And no, Obama wasn't asleep, the photos from that day have been widely shown.

Bull and more bull! I love the part abour BP...Oh, great. We, on the Gulf, are still waiting...can you help us out? Can you put our off shore drillers back to work? No? Oh, well! Can you get BP to pay their claims? No? Oh, well! And, your stimulus has helped? No? Oh, well!

Excuse me, Obama still not in any shape, form or fashion kill Bin Laden.

OMG, we wouldn't even have know the mission had failed. Do you think that Obama's egotistical self would have allowed that to get out? Impeachment? Give me a break! As if a president can be impeached because a mission goes wrong!

You're welcome to your (incorrect) opinions, but be aware that thinking like yours will tank the TEA GOP in 2012. People are tired of the obstruction, rudeness and do-nothingness of the TEA GOP and will vote accordingly.

The TEA GOP has already lost 21% in approval since January...enjoy your sinking ship!

mag... Where did I go wrong about the BP part. What are you waiting for in the Gulf. What hasn't happen for you. I think that you need to direct your anger at BP. My Stimulus. WTF are you talking about.

I tell you what, when history is written about the Bin Laden name, Pres Obama's name will be front and center. Like I said before, if you hire someone to kill, you will be charge just like the ones of kill. That is a fact. When those orders of the Bin Laden killing goes public, it will go into the Pres Obama's library. With his signature on the ditto line.

Those are the facts !!!!! PRES OBAMA KILLED BIN LADEN. Say it with me

Heard that same line last October TJG.

It's not 2010. The voters have now seen what the TEA GOP are all about and are not liking it. The TEA GOP will have to run on the results of their time in Congress and in control of state governments, they are not outsiders who can just whine their ways to a win.

Obama didn't kill Osama! he has been dead years before Obama took office!

They actually found Saddam in a hole in the ground! LITERALLY! What makes you think they couldn't have found Osama earlier? HE WAS ALREADY DEAD! Many in the mid east already knew this!

But keep up your talking points because you have no proof Osama was killed by Obama! NONE! just the word of a confirmed liar in office! He has kept one promise though! transparency! We see right through him!

But keep up your talking points because you have no proof Osama was killed by Obama! NONE! just the word of a confirmed liar in office! He has kept one promise though! transparency! We see right through him!

And the WTC was destroyed by Geo W Bush or Jesus - right?

Earth to Extra....some things in this life are actually real. You can't change them.

Extraterrestrial...... wow. So you don't believe the Seals who were there to kill Bin Laden and after killing him, the Seal took hold of his body. Wow. How crappy of you to not believe the US Navy Seals.

Saddam Hussein, Saddam Hussein. He never did anything to America. Iraq was a big ass lie. All Bush did was help Iran when he took out Saddam. Iraq had nothing to do with anything. Iraq will be forever remember as a Corrupt War base on lies told by the Bush's Admin

The Left have gone past the bounds of propaganda and into the realm of fantasy. All I can do is shake my head and feel actual pity for them. Unbelievable.

lifeisgood43

Were you there? Did you actually see Osamas dead body? Did you take any pictures? Did you help throw him off the ship?

I myself am proud of what the seals do! Let's just say hypothetically that the seals did kill Osama! Who gets the $25,000,000 bounty that was put on his head by President Bush? Or did you forget about that?

the $25,000,000 bounty...

I'd wager the money never existed, and was just a ploy by the White House to make Americans feel good. No Muslim in his right mind could ever hope to collect that bounty. It would result in a death sentence.

I think it might be possible somebody might have killed him and already collected the money but it was kept quiet because the government needed an enemy to justify the war in Afghanistan. So they kept it quiet until they might need a scenario to get Obama out of trouble and make him out to be a hero, well it backfired! :-] And we're still in Afghanistan.

LIG never posts facts or sources...it's all what he THINKS, and we know it ain't reality.

This country is in the worst shape it has been in a long, long time....and frankly, I don't see too many bright prospects for the future, other than Obama getting kicked to the curb in 2012. Well said, magno...it is the truth.

Conspiracy theories abound so I figured I'd add my $2.00 worth! After all it's not beyond the realm of possibility! :-]

Okay. Let me re-pharse my comment. Pres Obama gave the order to kill Bin Laden done by greatest, bravest group in the world- SEALS. Pres Obama was the sitting Pres when Bin Laden was killed. Is that an okay comment KIMGIRL. In other words, HE DID KILL BIN LADEN

To those brave Seals, I apologize for leaving you out of my comment #12

Obama gave no order! The order was on the table from the beginning. Find him, capture or kill him.

Obama was probably sleeping when the SEALS actually exercised this operation. He was probably awakened at 3 AM to inform him.

We have the greatest men and women in the world protecting our Country. They need a likewise leader and it is not Obama.

Obama gave no order! The order was on the table from the beginning. Find him, capture or kill him.

Anything to deny Obama credit for anything. Obama gave the order to make it priority one. Of course the military and intelligence community deserve most of the credit for the physical act. But Obama does not deserve to be completely taken out of the equation. He was gracious enough to call W to inform him. He didn't have a parade or a giant banner to proclaim it. It was just done. They watched the action on a video. Get over it.

If it happened on Bush's watch, there would have been much made of the man who was brave enough to say " the US is coming for the people that knocked down these buildings" How profound.

kjmgirl

So the Seal Team 6 members are heroes to you but the first responders who are experiencing a rapid rate of cancer and other diseases are nothing to you and deserve nothing. Simply amazing.

Don OVerton - are you @!$%#ing serious? I just posted a @!$%#ing article about the first responders. Have you had a frontal lobodomy or are you just spoiling for a fight?

kjm

Easy now do not get provoked into anything ugly

KJM, DO is a known word twister, just ignore him, everyone else does. He's not worth risking suspention for!

Right-wing extremism resembles a mental illness, I hope we find a cure soon.

Voted Up, I agree.

Such as?

Left wing extremism is just as bad, look to the 70s as an example, today the right wing is being extremist.

Again,like what,what left wing extremism?

A few, but not most of the leftys that I mingled with in the 60's and 70's impressed me as nothing more than angry troublemakers, and I'm a sympathyzer. The "New Right", actively advocating for the old wrongs at the time (and still do) took full advantage of that unfortunate disconnect between the "peacelovers" and the agressive activists.

Yesteryears lefty extremists pale in comparison to todays right wing neo fascists, but neither extreme is acceptable.

Owlsview made a valid point and I agreed with him.

Code Pink,a anti-war group comprised mainly of women,who advocates ending wars and re-directing those resources to health,education,and the general welfare of the American people are extremists? Really?

left wing extremism? You need a list? There's plenty out there..., but just consider this one thing: Obama was endorsed by the communist party. How extreme is that? The exact antithesis of Americanism and our form of economics and governance.

vol fan in chatt, tn FYI: We are in the 21st century now.

So being in the 21st century means that our constitution is expired? I don't recall reading an expiration date in the United States constitution! Our Republic has been around long before communism, and we see what happened to communism! There are still a few holdouts like China and North Korea, but it is a pretty dead ideology. I don't care how hard Obama tries, he is not going to succeed in making this you're 21st century Marxist State. Good luck with that comrade!

Alex, and that has to do with ....what?

Communism is no longer relevant today.

Neither is Marxism or socialism and especially not Islamic extremism! But they still exist!

Damn Owls! that was perfect!

I hope you save them up! I would like to read them!

I don't know if they can do everything they want to though; a senate and white house still blocks anything they would try. The only thing they have been able to accomplish really is to demand some slow down in spending and on a bigger picture turn the attention of America to the pending disaster if we don't address the national debt. They have sent items up only to be tabled by Reid in the senate and Obama's veto promises. So they can only get action when it absolutely has to pass through the house. We are now at a lame duck congress. Nothing they propose will make it past the senate or the white house; nothing the white house or senate proposes will make it through the house.

I take it you didn't make the connection, faces change but things remain the same. :)

It's a Human Fallacy, repeating history that is. :) or an educational gap either fits the bill

Guess those shovel ready jobs weren't so shovel ready after all.

Right, but there were plenty of spatula ready jobs at McDonald's.

Just let me say this and it's a fact; a certain outside agitator is allowed to get away with the kind of sh*t that would get anyone else on NV suspended or even banned. So the anger towards her is justified. I'm very glad you wrote this op/ed piece, owl; voted up.

So it was all just a coincidence then, right? Bad timing? Not only did he not know when the debates were scheduled his advisors and party strategists forgot as well. Gotcha :)

Speaking of the intellectual elite; did their polar opposites, the D.A's, not pay their rent? Or was it another Friday drive-by? :)

John Boehner did not insult the Office of the President of the United States. He insulted the man who uses the office for political manipulation and personal gain. This whole rush to make another speech about jobs is just more shtick

Bull @!$%#, If Obama had been a repub, Boehner would have bent over backward thrusting his head up his ass to accomodate him, who do you think your kidding?

Bravo Owls!